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  • If I could meet Glenn Beck

    Posted by Rich Harwood
    Aug 31, 2010

    There’s no denying it, Glenn Beck has stirred up our politics and public life. I think that’s a good thing. Many people may want to condemn him. I want to meet him. I want to ask him some basic questions and use this moment to engage more Americans in a conversation about the kind of country they want. Here’s why.


    I listened to a good portion of Beck’s “Restoring Honor” rally on the Washington Mall where tens of thousands of people gathered to hear a collection of political and religious leaders, among others, speak about America’s need to “return to God.“ The rally took place on the 47th anniversary of Dr. Martin Luther King’s “I Have a Dream” speech and repeatedly invoked King’s memory.


    There are some people who assert that Beck has besmirched King’s legacy. That he dishonored King, leveraged King’s notoriety for his own personal gain and distorted King’s meaning. While I understand these views, I fear that they are too defensive – they neither seek to illuminate nor engage, only to stymie and block a necessary discussion. King’s legacy has endured because its content was so right in 1963 and remains so as times have changed.  


    Beck’s rally was one of the few times in my memory the entire nation has focused on MLK other than on MLK Day each year. At last there is an opportunity to talk about MLK – not the enshrinement of his memory, or the activities we gin up in his honor, but the living meaning of his words. King’s words summon us to step forward and act on behalf of all people – not just some. So, with Beck’s rally, isn’t now the time to take stock of where we have made progress, and where there is still work still to be done? Isn’t now the time to be clear on the steps we must take to have the kind of nation King envisioned?


    My growing fear is that the country finds itself in a place where when someone puts forth ideas we disagree with, the immediate response is to say how aggrieved and offended we are; to become defensive; to cast others as evil-doers. But where does this really get us?


    Too many of our public discussions have become more about validating ourselves rather than examining ourselves. About buttressing our own arguments and points of view rather than engaging with others – especially those who seem different from us. Too often our tactic is to shut out or shout down our “opponents.”


    I do not for a moment believe that everyone is a saint and acts with good intentions; but nor do I believe that we must fear engagement on the tough and emotional issues of the day. We must not hide from the need to engage with one another if we truly seek progress. 


    Beck’s rally suggests that there are Americans who feel the country is spinning out of control, who believe we have lost our moral bearings, who want to hold onto to certain basic values. But I suspect the same can be said about the numerous folks who gathered with the Rev. Al Sharpton at a counter-rally that took place on Saturday in Washington, D.C. Many Americans feel that things have spun out of control.


    My question to Beck is not simply about his views, but about where he thinks there might be common ground with other Americans on how we can move ahead. I don’t care very much about his religious views (or his critique of President Obama’s religious views, about which he has spoken extensively), but about what his religious views teach him about reaching out to the poor, the disenfranchised, the hungry. I don’t want to hear Beck talk more about his own personal trials, but about what we need to do about the children and families who remain vulnerable in our communities. 


    I could spend all my time condemning Glenn Beck and some people would cheer me on. Instead, I’d like to engage Glenn Beck. The content of our character is how we respond to those with whom we disagree, or who may have hurt us, or who frighten us, or who hold power over us, or who we simply do not understand. I’m sure there are some things Beck said that I disagree with; others that I support. Either way, I want to meet him.

        
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Jan 18, 2012 | Jimmy 
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    Dec 14, 2011 | Keyla 
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  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Sep 3, 2010 | Rich Harwood 
    Hi JSD, thanks for the comment. Yes, ego is a big issue here. More to the point, a lack of humility is. We can get lost within ourselves and forget where we exist within a larger context. As you say, the people in the trenches often don't seem to have access to public discourse itself. It\'s one of the reasons why the Institute spends so much time trying to cultivate boundary spanning organizations that are firmly rooted in their communities -- an authentic mechanism to pry open space in communities for people to engage and innovate together. One of the reasons why I\'d like to meet Glenn Beck is to see if some of that space could be opened through a conversation with him. He may still hold his views, fine; but the very act of the conversation can create openings for the rest of us.Of course, each of us would have to have enough humility to be open to engage as well. I\'m not sure everyone\'s ready for that yet. Thanks again.
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Sep 2, 2010 | James S. Davis 
    Rich, your mention of the ego factor strikes a chord. Beck is one among many public figures I would avoid for precisely that reason, meaning that I percieve the ego as sufficiently impeding as to make discourse difficult, and perhaps impossible. Of course, that is all the more reson such discourse should be attempted. Unfortunately in our society, one appears to need a certain "status" to even have the opportunity to participate in such discourse. In education, for example, Arne Duncan moves around the country but the unknown, "in the trenches" teachers have little chance to penetrate the shield around him. In Beck's case, perhaps you will get a chance to represent some of us. I would like to see a renewed "values" focus; I would not readily defer to any one set of values or proponent thereof. JSD
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Sep 2, 2010 | Rich Harwood 
    Hi everyone,

    Thanks for all your comments. I apologize for not responding sooner. Needless to say it's been a crazy week for me.

    I have a few quick points in response to what has been written. I have some very basic points I sought to make in my post about Glenn Beck's event. I won't restate them here, but I do want to underscore some of them.

    1. Beck's use of MLK posed for all of us a challenge -- "How are we doing on King's vision?" It's easy to condemn Beck, but much harder to examine our own engagement, views, and actions. My intent was and is to use Beck's event to call us to look at ourselves first. It won't mater as much what Beck does if peopel can work together to act on King's vision. Let's make sure we're actually doing that, rather than just rhetorically endorsing it.

    2. I wanted to meet Beck to engage him and others in what does it mean to address, for instance, the needs of the most vulnerable in our society? As Glen B.says, Beck talks about many of the same things many people (including me) care about -- faith, hope and love. Well, what do these mean to him? Instead of just letting him (or anyone) talk abotu them, let's truly engage on them.

    3. Why did I say we should not turn away from Beck? Because in our society, we too often condemn others so we won't have to engage; so we won't have to wrestle with tough problems; so we won't have to articulate our own point of view and be challenged. I say, "bring on the challenge." But that requires we step forward and actually engage.

    4. Is Beck "evil" as some seem to suggest? I don't know. I do know he seems that his ego is significant and he spouts off in ways I don't particularly like. But he's not a murderer or something... and there are many people responding to his message. Moreover, there are people on the left I feel who take similar liberties with facts and perspectives. And, yes, I think they, too, are harming our public discourse. And, yes, they are as much entertainers and genuine engagers. But in Beck's case, I don't think that means we turn our backs on all of them as if we are vacating the public square. I think it means we engage, state our views, engage others, engage some more, don't give up. What I'm talking about is a posture we assume -- one of engaging in public life.

    5. But Beck won't change, some people say. So? Is that our only goal -- to change Glenn Beck? It's not mine. Nor is my goal to change you or anyone else. It is to engage to see what we can discover and how we can move ahead. I don't pretend that will be easy or nice or even always possible. But how else can we address our common concerns?

    6. One person said that I was like Chamberlain going to talk with Hitler. I understand that's a figure of speech. But my passion is that we have a choice: we can turn away from public life and those with whom we disagree, or, we can turn outward and try to create the kind of world we want. I fall squarely in the second group. I know that evil exists, that bad people exist, that bad things happen. But that doesn't mean I'm going to turn away. I'm going to keep fighting.

    7. Much of my work is about how to create change. And part of that is that you ultimately have to decide who you will team up with to create that change. At that point, one must make clear and practical choices. But that's not why I wrote the post. My goal was not to create a change strategy with Glenn Beck, but to point out that we must not turn away from each other. And that too often we turn away which only leads to more division. There's no end to this turning away right now. I say, Beck has offered the country a space to talk about things we have either dismissed, submerged, hidden, given lip service to, or only talk about with those with agree with. Let's have a real debate to talk about real issues so real people can improve their lives. That's my bottom line.
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Sep 2, 2010 | Glen B. 
    Rich – I think your post here, and the responses to it, raise incredibly important questions. I’m so glad you chose this as your subject. Our diverse reactions to the Glenn Beck event distill the challenge of your work and that of our ever being able to achieve the ‘redemption of hope.’ I myself keep coming back to a central question in my mind – why the reciprocal vitriol when public figures on the left and right extol values which should be creating ties that bind instead of division? Glenn Beck used last weekend to address, in very unambiguous terms, faith, hope, charity and the need for personal engagement, every one of which are themes which define your own work. And yet within the below comment section, our various responses are laced with oft-times pejorative terms and allusions like ‘demagogue’, ‘world wrestling federation’, ‘very sad’, ‘Fuehrer’, ‘self promoting’, ‘no interest in pursuing truth’, ‘political entertainer’. How ironic insofar as we’re all drawn to this page, I think, out of a shared desire to see more political comity and less derision. My own view is that we’re never going to get anywhere until we the people start acknowledging the shared values which underlie the left and rights priorities. I am absolutely convinced the left and right have much more in common than we (or our media) allow ourselves to see. Just because Glenn Beck, and not Rich Harwood, talks of the need for personal engagement, faith, hope and charity, we shouldn’t strive but should resist the urge to find points of ridicule. Same goes for the ridicule of public figures on the left. I have no secret recipe for how we, as a community, can get over what we’re doing to ourselves in this self-destructing process. I would love to hear your thoughts on that, but until such time as we start focusing on the values that bind us, I myself will have diminished hope
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Sep 1, 2010 | haeray 
    I believe Glen Beck and a few others like him are taking their cues from the likes of World Wrestling Entertainment promoters. In my opinion, Beck's 8/28 event was truly a “spectacle.” Please take a moment and look up the definition of the word spectacle and at your next opportunity tune in and watch one of those wrestling events. He even had a “hottie” prance around for the audience to view.

    Some who attend those wrestling events, along with their parents, do believe the show is “for real.” Did ya' hear Glen Beck talking about his thoughts about the children in attendance? I did!

    Maybe next time we see the fireworks show as well! Sad... Very sad America. Just another prime time ripoff.
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Sep 1, 2010 | Hansen Long 
    Rich: You really wish to meet and engage in dialog with Glen Beck? That sounds like Neville Chamberlain wishing to meet and dialog with the Fuhrer to "achieve peace in our time." Winston Churchill had a more realistic view of the Fuhrer which he brilliantly set forth in the following quotation: "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons." Rich, the Beckster is a self-promoting, clever and richly compensated entertainer whose rantings demonstrate little if any redeeming social value. Even he admits to having a "big fat mouth." His recent Mall adventure had all the trappings of a Roman circus. I think you would have better uses of your time than to meet and engage Glen Beck.
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Aug 31, 2010 | John 
    Rich, I do not know Glen Beck's Politics, but I do know this Glenn is only attracting people who's voice are not being heard. They are shutout. I agree with you in only engageing can we find out. The Anti-Christian crowd, some who if fact claim to be Christians too, in American write anyone off as soon as the word "God" in mentioned, or any talk on morality is dismissed. This is not building bridges, but only more walls. I think some critical thinking is in order as to why the media is protraying the rallys the way it was. Other words don't kill the messenger because you don't like the message. I think there is a very clear message, if you take in the following prepective. The majority of poor in the US is white. The middle class as been vanishing for how long now, 20 -30 years. The average American for the last twenty years has felt that their children will not have a better live than them, perhaps even worse. When a poor white christian says anything in a public forum they are almost always labeled igorant, racist, sexist, a skinhead, and uneducated regardless when afterwards you ask what they were saying an on one can tell you? Tolerance indeed?
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Aug 31, 2010 | John 
    Rich, I do not know Glen Beck's Politics, but I do know this Glenn is only attracting people who's voice are not being heard. They are shutout. I agree with you in only engageing can we find out. The Anti-Christian crowd, some who if fact claim to be Christians too, in American write anyone off as soon as the word "God" in mentioned, or any talk on morality is dismissed. This is not building bridges, but only more walls. I think some critical thinking is in order as to why the media is protraying the rallys the way it was. Other words don't kill the messenger because you don't like the message. I think there is a very clear message, if you take in the following prepective. The majority of poor in the US is white. The middle class as been vanishing for how long now, 20 -30 years. The average American for the last twenty years has felt that their children will not have a better live than them, perhaps even worse. When a poor white christian says anything in a public forum they are almost always labeled igorant, racist, sexist, a skinhead, and uneducated regardless when afterwards you ask what they were saying an on one can tell you? Tolerance indeed?
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Aug 31, 2010 | Scott Dowd 
    Hi Rich, I agree with you one hundred percent and believe that we should examine ourselves, our motives, and our beliefs. But, as one of your earlier commentators noted Beck is a demagogue and demonstrates regularly that he has no interest in pursuing the truth or common ground. He is convinced that his is the only way and all other points of view are wrong by definition. Demagogues are nothing new and their stirring up of society often ends badly for everyone.
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Aug 31, 2010 | ethel 
    Noted- there are many on the Christian right who feel we are moving in the wrong direction. Beck has their attention, and he is exploiting thier sense of fear and alienation. no bridges Are being built. He is not sincere about dialog. He is a demagogue- interesting in judging the views and religion of those who are left of his views. Is there any evidence true conversation or problem solving with those who don't share his views? I think not. He is a divider, not a uniter.
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Aug 31, 2010 | Bernard Young 
    We have definitely lost our sense of community and have become over time a people who would rather listen to what other people say rather than to think things through for ourselves. Fact is, we have seemingly lost our capacity to think critically through many areas of our lives and prefer listening to journalists and others as they tell us what the facts are. I am very skeptical at the bent that news take on in this country and the many expressions coming from seemingly respected individuals who many times feed us with information that really forces us to take sides on issues and not think critically. From my vantage point, i see Glen Beck recent staging in terms of him speaking to issues that others ought to be speaking to but are too afraid, intimidated or vested in taking sides, to be able to openly and honestly address. Glenn Beck is biased in many of his views, but on this occassion, he had the guts to say something that struck a chord in the hearts of many in the public domain who feel the same way. Perhaps the Church can stand up and represent the spiritual and representative values of society at large and be the salt and light, instead of sitting back and complaining when individuals like Glen Beck strike a blow for freedom of the human spirit and a better hope and expression of life that has meaning and purpose.
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Aug 31, 2010 | Derek Okubo 
    Well said, Rich. Thank you.
  • Re: If I could meet Glenn Beck
    Aug 31, 2010 | John Creighton 
    Rich, I appreciate your sentiment and admire your dedication to building bridges between Americans. I take a slightly different view of Glenn Beck and other political entertainers. I think it is time we disengage from political entertainment. I compare political entertains to modern day lotus-eaters from Greek mythology. They are distracting us from the challenges we face in our communities and nation. I would suggest we need to engage each other rather than let political entertainers continue to set the boundaries of public discourse. I write about it here:

    http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/dispatches-heartland/2010/aug/31/its-time-say-enough-limbaugh-olbermann-and-cast-po/

    Thanks Rich for your post.
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