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  • The Michael Vick Question

    Posted by Rich Harwood
    Aug 18, 2009

    About two years ago Michael Vick, then the Atlanta Falcons’ star quarterback, was convicted for running dog fights and for that and other crimes was swiftly sent off to prison. Now, he’s out, and he’s playing football again, and people are split about whether that’s right. The Vick case raises a question for all of us: when do we forgive someone?

    This past Sunday, Vick sat for a lengthy 60 Minutes interview. As I watched the interview, I kept wondering whether I should believe him, even forgive him. Here’s a man who was on top of the world before being convicted – a star athlete, with $135 million worth of contracts in his hip pocket, and a promising future.

    Now, he’s served his time, and so in a legal sense he has paid his debt to society. But forgiveness often goes deeper than serving time. It involves people believing that you understand your transgression, that you seek to better yourself, and that you are willing to walk a different path.

    In our society, we have a mixed record on forgiveness. Often we simply give people a “pass” when they do wrong. Our culture is filled with people who have violated the law, our trust – or both – only to come forth with the perfunctory apology, tears, and histrionics. Then we all say “ok.” Think of any number of political officials. The recent exception is Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina; he’s holding onto his office for dear life, but has lost his standing and family in the process.

    There are other instances where people have transgressed, and where we simply write them off. The most obvious case for me is convicted felons, who seek to re-enter community life only to be cast aside. We often fail to offer education, family, employment, or other necessary supports to help these individuals get back up on their feet. Indeed, many of the signals we send to them are, “Don’t bother coming into our community!”

    So, here we have Michael Vick. Upon his re-entry to society, Vick is being mentored by Tony Dungy, the former coach of the Indianapolis Colts, a deeply religious man, and someone who does significant work with men in prisons. He met with Vick before his release to gauge his remorse and his potential, and he decided to put his sterling reputation of integrity and forthrightness behind him.

    Wayne Pacelle, President and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States, has also publicly vouched for Vick. In a deft public relations move, Vick reached out to the Humane Society to work with them, no doubt trying to fix his image. Not only did Pacelle say “fine,” but they have worked out a true partnership where Vick will do more than requisite public service announcements. Pacelle said on 60 Minutes that dog fighting has become a major hidden problem in the U.S. and that Vick is a believable, effective spokesperson.

    But is all this even enough? What strikes me about the Vick situation is that not only does he have Dungy and Pacelle standing beside him, but he has them to hold him publicly accountable. The lingering question is only that of Vick’s own authenticity.

    So, do we give him another chance? Has he stepped forward to adequately express remorse? Does he have enough people in his life to truly hold him accountable? Can he run, but not hide? At what point, can someone take all the necessary steps possible, at least for the time being, and still not receive a nod from us?

    For me, I believe we cast too many people aside without giving them a real shot, and give too many people who no longer deserve support a pass by looking the other way. I hate what Michael Vick did. But here’s someone who is at least trying to look us in the eye. Only time will tell if he truly succeeds.
        
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  • Re: The Michael Vick Question
    Aug 20, 2009 | Rich Harwood 
    I'm struck by the wide variation in responses to this piece on Michael Vick. When I read through the responses, there are questions what what constitutes forgiveness, who can give it, and under what conditions. Each response has its own definition of these things, which maybe reflects the tension and debate in society itself.

    I know the Fetzer Institute has an entire community-based initiative around "love and forgiveness," and these responses makes me want to go back and look at their material (as well as consult my own faith).

    Maybe 'forgiveness' wasn't the right word on my part, I don't know. But I do know that each of us -- as well as soceity as a whole -- is faced with having to make judgments and choices about our relationshp to others. For me, the Michael Vick situaiton puts those questions front and center. Be well.
  • Re: The Michael Vick Question
    Aug 19, 2009 | Herb 
    It is not clear t me that one has the right to forgive a crime committed against someone else. Perhaps the most we can do is support Mr. Vick when he tries to make amends to his victims --and pray for him.
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    Aug 19, 2009 | Lorraine 
    I am able to forgive Michael Vick because he has served his time, has openly admitted that he was wrong, has taken steps to atone for his behavior, and has added positive role models to his life. I would only withdraw that forgiveness if he does not follow through and has a repeat of that or other inappropriate behavior. Until the day comes that America places as much value on human life as they do on animals, as a society we are hypocrits to withhold forgiveness. I have heard the theory that the difference is that animals are defenseless therefore those who mistreat animals should be severely punished. We have many human beings who are also defenseless based on the situations that they find themselves in, but the perpetrators of those crimes often receive less punishment than those who abuse animals. A school teacher in Tampa, FL hits and kills 3 children crossing the street and flees the scene of the accident...but does no time in jail. Her parents hid the vehicle and washed the blood off thereby destroying evidence...but were never charged with a crime. Thankfully, the judge had the wisdom to not grant her request for early release from house arrest. She, her family and friends felt that she had suffered enough. A popular, affluent high school cheerleader hits a homeless person who was crossing the street and flees the scene. She parks her damaged vehicle on the street in front of her home. The police find evidence linking the vehicle to the crime but closes the case. Neither she nor her parents step forward even though the case is highly publicized. Months pass and only after coming under public scrutiny is the case re-opened and minor charges are finally filed...at the same time that it is revealed that she will not serve any time. Were the children and the homeless person partially at fault for being in the road? Probably, and they paid a dear price for their actions. Were the drivers of the vehicles and the parents at fault and did they break the law by leaving the scene of an accident, failing to render aid, tampering with and destroying evidence? Definitely! Did they pay a dear price for their actions? DEFINITELY NOT! Until these disparities in how we treat those who abuse / destroy humans vs. animals are resolved across this nation, we cannot afford to withhold forgiveness from anyone.
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    Aug 18, 2009 | Andrea Applegate 
    I'm bothered by the arguements defending Michael Vick that state simply, "He made a mistake." Sure, he's served his time, and under normal circumstances, he should be forgiven. I am all about forgiving people who make mistakes, who then express remorse and demonstrate that they understand and have learned that what they did was wrong. But Michael Vick did not "make a mistake." Michael Vick perpetrated cruel and heinous crimes on innocent creatures over an extended period.

    And for what reason? What was the motivation? What circumstance drove him to it? He thought it was cool and, oh by the way, he could make a little money on it, too. There are some crimes that are so deep, so egregious, that it's really hard to justify forgiveness. Oh, and shame on those who think this is a race/class thing. It's a question of decency and humanity.
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    Aug 18, 2009 | Roy 
    I would add a challenging question for me is the notion of Public Values. What are they in today’s growingly amorphous definition of community? Are Public Values defined by notion of privilege? Privilege was (is) based upon color, class, education, geography, and wealth. Can we make a connection between the following: Henry Louis Gates incident in Cambridge, the carrying of guns to a Town Hall meeting where President Obama is speaking on Healthcare, the overcrowding and imprisonment of Black and Hispanic citizens in California Prisons in CA from petty breaches of the law, and the public lynching of Michael Vick? Could America’s struggle with who defines, owns, articulates, and God’s right to privilege( and success ) feed into broken public values? How does America solve its historical systems of inequity and its promise of redemption along with the ability to remake life for all its citizens? The plight of Michael Vick must be placed in the context of the decline and struggle to rewrite public values beyond economics, race, class, and success. America needs therapy. It needs to turn a powerful lens upon itself. It needs some self-examination and reflection to determine with clarity what it means to be an American, how to redeem hope, what defines success, and truly write an inclusive and authentic set of public values based on the recognition of public histories of its peoples trust, honesty, and respect. Then, we can look openly and honestly at Michael Vick and the many Michael Vicks that live segregated and behind bars, both visible and invisible, and recommend new courses of action.
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    Aug 18, 2009 | Joe Mcfadyen 
    forgivness comes from within, does it matter if I forgive him. You need to forgive yourself, learn from your mistakes and move forwrd with yourself, when you can do that then you will be a better person to and for yourself and others will benfit from your change.
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    Aug 18, 2009 | WITF 
    Puppy mills, new laws to protect dogs and those looking to adopt a pet, and convicted dog abuser Michael Vick is a Philadelphia Eagle. The nations’ eyes are on Pennsylvania when it comes to the treatment and welfare of dogs. Let your voice be heard... at witf .org. http://www.witf.org/news/smart-talk/1681-dog-laws-puppy-mills-and-michael-vick-radio-smart-talk-tuesday-august-18
  • Re: The Michael Vick Question
    Aug 18, 2009 | Eric 
    Rich, great comments. I found myself thinking the same things. One thing I was surprised that you didn't mention was the culture of aggression inherent in football. I wondered why so many were so surprised when Vick's violent nature was exposed. It didn't surprise me. That's not to say that all football players are deviantly violent, but clearly there are those in the ranks.

    If Vick can be coached to find acceptable venues for his aggression, then perhaps he can be effectively rehabilitated. I'm pulling for him, I hope he has what it takes.

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